Parker hot enough for Spain

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    #10
    Álvaro Girón
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    Parker not hot enough for Sherry

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    How can we possibly say that Mr. Parker and Co. are hot enough for Spain while he/they neglect the most underrated jewels of Spanish wine year after year? Ok., Jerez is peculiar, but this can never be a justification. It’s like ignoring Champagne just because is not red and has disgusting bubbles in it. Talking about Spanish wines without Sherry is like writing a book on Portuguese wines bypassing Porto.

    #11
    Guiri
    en respuesta a Álvaro Girón

    Re: Parker not hot enough for Sherry

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    You`re right Alvaro, but then again how many people actually know about Sherry? You’re talking here about probably the most complicated wine in the world. And as far a communication is concerned, the D.O. of Jerez just started to promote the real sherry a few years ago. Until the introduction of the VOS and VORS sherry, just a handful of wine freaks knew what real sherry was about. It’s a question of waiting for a new generation of wine lovers to discover sherry again.

    Before that sherry production was more concentrated on medium dry, pale cream and stuff like that. If made well, a good medium or cream can be superb, but that’s the point, most sherries were sold at 3 liters for 5 euro. What image do you create with that? At least the sherry producers know now that they were wrong with their strategy, and are doing everything to regain some respect. I only hope it is not too late for many of the smaller bodegas. Because it is a shame to see that many of the old bodegas are turned into supermarkets, fitness centers and parking places.

    Alvaro, you are comparing Sherry with Champagne. There’s one important difference. Champagne never lost her image. And sherry never had one. At least not the last 50 years. Sherry has spend million of pesetas, euro’s etc to create a new image. And did it work? If Parker doesn’t write about sherry, is he to blame, or should you blame the producers for screwing up in the 70s, 80s and 90’s. Nevertheless as I think of it, didn’t Parker taste some sherry’s lately. Wasn’t it Pedro Romero and maybe some Alvear from Montilla Moriles?

    I love sherry, don’t understand me wrong. It’s the most underestimated wine in the world. I prefer to drink an old oloroso or amontillado when I cook. I love to drink a fresh crispy manzanilla or bone dry fino with almost everything. Jerez is the place where I fell in love with wine in 1992, the ferias and flamenco and I will always thank this town, the people and sherry in general for giving me an unforgettable time. Everytime I drink una copita I get emotional and feel like coming home in Jerez.

    ¡Viva el Sherry!

    Guiri

    #12
    Guiri
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    Re: Parker hot enough for Spain

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    Hi RayQ and Suiko,
    maybe it’s a phase many Spanish producers are going through?
    At this moment I see that many Spanish do very well. Wines (even Parker wines) with prices below 15 $ are worth trying. No re-packed reservas, but fruity wines, with character. I prefer to look at Levante and Castilla La Mancha or Aragon and Cataluña, not only Rioja and Ribera del Duero

    Guiri

    #13
    Guiri
    en respuesta a Álvaro Girón

    Re: Parker not hot enough for Sherry

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    Hi Alvaro
    All the wines with No Vintage tasted by the Wine Advocate until now.
    Quite a few are from Jerez. I agree that tasting these sherries and knowing something about shery in general are two different items.
    Parker still has some home work to do! But I think he knows that too. He’s not ignoring the sherry wines because he doesn’t like sherry.
    He also depends on the samples the sherry producers and importers in the US send him. Maybe we should try to convince the sherry sector to attract Parker’s attention.

    Guiri

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    #14
    GerryDawes
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    Re: Parker hot enough for Spain

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    I can’t get into this conversation. Visions of Parkerista wines and Anna Nicole Smith keep getting mixed up in my head. What was this thread originally about? Was it wine?

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