The evolution of taste: biological or cultural?
The evolution of taste: biological or cultural?
Ver mensaje de Juan SuchI reproduce an interesting subject post in the IWC forum (which is open only to subscribers). Tanzer comments:
";As I get older, I find myself increasingly looking for freshness, clarity, complexity AND sweetness of flavor, and I find heavily new-oaky and high-alcohol wines more and more tiring.
On the other hand, I’ve had firsthand experience with some older English tasters (and I mean gents in their 70s or 80s) who told me that as they grew older they gravitated toward increasingly sweet wines (I’m speaking here of ripe fruit, as opposed to residual sugar). But I don’t know whether they were simply looking for wines that required less mental effort to appreciate or whether their taste buds literally changed over time.
Actually, I have a suspicion that the receptors on the tongue for bitter and sour tastes become more sensitive over time, and perhaps those for salty tastes as well. (I believe that Emile Peynaud pointed out that, of the four basic tastes, only the sweet taste is really agreeable.) As the sour taste comes from a wine’s acids, and the bitter taste from a wine’s tannins, it makes sense that as one grows older one would be less tolerant of acids and tannins, and gravitate more toward sweetness, which can mask the effect of sour and bitter tastes.";
(...) ";those who increasingly gravitate toward sweeter wines (which generally correspond to wines with higher alcohol) may be moving in the opposite direction. Based on at least this anecdotal evidence, it would thus seem unlikely that biological change is a determining factor.";
Are you aware of be evolving in one of these directions? A biological factor or an intellectual-cultural one?
Now I am looking more (specially at the table with food) for wines with delineation and clarity, which usually means leaner, but brighter and more vibrant wines (thanks to good acidity and a mineral quality). And, unfortunately, I think most of Spanish high-end wines gravitate now more on the fruit bomb side... lacking delineation and nuance.
Re: The evolution of taste: biological or cultural?
Ver mensaje de Juan SuchMay be a biological factor, I don’t know, but I think the matter has some kind of intellectual evolution of your own. I’m with you Juan, looking for more elegant, vibrant and mineral wines. I’m not so opposite with the fruit bomb side of the wine (not including here overripe wines), but a lot with heavily new-oaky wines (especially with coffe-like ones).
May be we are talking about different things than Tanzer.
Re: The ’mental effort’ to appreciate wine
Ver mensaje de Iñaki BlascoI think is very interesting when Tanzer says ";I don’t know whether they were simply looking for wines that required less mental effort to appreciate or whether their taste buds literally changed over time."; My experience is that wine newcomers enjoy more directness, fruit driven wines than wine geeks. At the same time, older people (I have only anecdotal evidence from my own family :-) tend to appreciate more fruity wines, perhaps for that ";required less mental effort";.
Just enjoy it...
Ver mensaje de Juan SuchI´am on my late 30´s and I enjoy more and more the ";Rioja classics"; two years ago I don’ t even be close to them.
Cheers
Re: Just enjoy it...
Ver mensaje de BenjaminBerjonBut my impression is that most of the Rioja ";classics"; have changed so much that I’m not sure the expression has much meaning!
Re: Just enjoy it...
Ver mensaje de suikoI mean the real classics like Lopez Heredia, Muga, Cune, Rioja Alta S.A., Bodegas Riojanas...
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Ver mensaje de BenjaminBerjonI don’t know all of them, but i would say Muga at least has changed quite a bit in the last 15 years. And even Viña Ardanza, I think.